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notice, postponed my coming to this august house, and therefore I thank you on behalf of the senator, ladies and gentlemen, for your understanding.",48.36,77.16,70,{"idx":74,"utterance_id":117,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":118,"start_s":119,"end_s":120,"word_count":95,"indexable":75},"175572","This is already the third year I come to this house, to this committee, for us to talk about the LDO.",77.9,83.1,{"idx":122,"utterance_id":123,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":124,"start_s":125,"end_s":126,"word_count":49,"indexable":75},8,"175573","And as usual, Senator Efraim, since this is something very technical and, at first, very bureaucratic, I do not take the full 30 minutes.",83.62,92.22,{"idx":128,"utterance_id":129,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":130,"start_s":131,"end_s":132,"word_count":133,"indexable":75},9,"175574","In fact, I rarely go over 15, because I think what matters is the debate, for me to note all the observations and questions that are 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About the government's primary result, also so as not to prolong, because all of you have it in the LDO itself, I would just like to focus here on the first line, that this total primary revenue corresponds to 23.21% of GDP.",591.28,611.24,{"idx":436,"utterance_id":437,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":438,"start_s":439,"end_s":440,"word_count":21,"indexable":75},62,"175627","If we remove net transfer revenues, then at number 4, we would have in net transfer revenue something around 18.3%.",612.12,622.42,{"idx":442,"utterance_id":443,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":444,"start_s":445,"end_s":446,"word_count":115,"indexable":75},63,"175628","And in line 4, which is primary expenditures, if you look in relation to all the years, I'm talking here about 25 and now I speak of 26, we have practically... here from 25 to 26, a permanence regarding primary expenditures, and it starts to fall more drastically from 2027, then 28 and 2029, this exactly because of the acaboço fiscal approved by the National Congress.",623.44,649.54,{"idx":448,"utterance_id":449,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":450,"start_s":451,"end_s":452,"word_count":357,"indexable":75},64,"175629","If I can only increase expenditure by 70% of the revenue increase, still having a second ceiling, which is a real growth of at most 2.5%, as revenues have been coming in well above inflation... 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Sorry, here I am on the page... Go back, please, to the non-administered, just to prove what I said.",857,866.96,{"idx":578,"utterance_id":579,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":580,"start_s":581,"end_s":582,"word_count":82,"indexable":75},86,"175651","In line 4, on non-administered revenues, in relation to GDP, the presented revenues are 2.5, and you will see that then it falls a bit, to 2.3, 2.4, 2.3, 2.2.",867.92,879.74,{"idx":584,"utterance_id":585,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":586,"start_s":587,"end_s":588,"word_count":578,"indexable":75},87,"175652","Now, regarding administered revenues, relative to GDP, again, it is so conservative, from our perspective, in a realistic sense, but with feet planted on the ground, that in terms of GDP we are talking about administered revenues on the order of 5.2% this year, relative to GDP, projecting a growth... of 15.4, then 27, 14.9, 14.7, 14.5, because, according to revenue, we do not want to count our chickens before they hatch, so these are numbers 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speaking.",986.38,989.72,{"idx":626,"utterance_id":627,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":628,"start_s":629,"end_s":630,"word_count":122,"indexable":75},94,"175659","that there is a very big challenge ahead.",990.14,992.3,{"idx":632,"utterance_id":633,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":634,"start_s":635,"end_s":636,"word_count":151,"indexable":75},95,"175660","It is that discretionary expenditures will be strangled by the increase in mandatory expenditures.",992.72,1000.16,{"idx":638,"utterance_id":639,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":640,"start_s":641,"end_s":642,"word_count":288,"indexable":75},96,"175661","Some of them we have solutions for and we will debate with the National Congress, others we will only be able to do in light of some measures that we would or will have to take of spending review, project analysis.",1000.64,1014.24,{"idx":644,"utterance_id":645,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":646,"start_s":647,"end_s":648,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},97,"175662","I bring here only two examples.",1015.12,1017.64,{"idx":650,"utterance_id":651,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":652,"start_s":653,"end_s":654,"word_count":97,"indexable":75},98,"175663","One is the BPC.",1018.4,1019.48,{"idx":656,"utterance_id":657,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":658,"start_s":659,"end_s":660,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},99,"175664","And the other is Fundeb.",1020.14,1021.4,{"idx":662,"utterance_id":663,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":664,"start_s":665,"end_s":666,"word_count":175,"indexable":75},100,"175665","BPC goes from 119, and it may be a little more or a little less.",1022.12,1028.16,{"idx":668,"utterance_id":669,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":670,"start_s":671,"end_s":672,"word_count":199,"indexable":75},101,"175666","here in the year 2025, we think it will not be less, to something around 140 billion in projection.",1028.22,1036.08,{"idx":674,"utterance_id":675,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":676,"start_s":677,"end_s":678,"word_count":4,"indexable":75},102,"175667","There are a number of issues here that need to be discussed.",1036.72,1039.54,{"idx":137,"utterance_id":680,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":681,"start_s":682,"end_s":683,"word_count":122,"indexable":75},"175668","Then it goes to 151, 165 and 184.",1039.9,1045.92,{"idx":685,"utterance_id":686,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":687,"start_s":688,"end_s":689,"word_count":181,"indexable":75},104,"175669","Remembering, if we compare Previdência with the BPC... In Previdência, we have more than 20 million people.",1045.98,1053.72,{"idx":691,"utterance_id":692,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":693,"start_s":694,"end_s":695,"word_count":122,"indexable":75},105,"175670","BPC, we have 6 million beneficiaries.",1054.1,1056.92,{"idx":697,"utterance_id":698,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":699,"start_s":700,"end_s":701,"word_count":95,"indexable":75},106,"175671","When you break down the numbers or stress these numbers, the BPC is almost half.",1057.24,1062.24,{"idx":703,"utterance_id":704,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":705,"start_s":706,"end_s":707,"word_count":175,"indexable":75},107,"175672","the person with a disability, almost the other half, it's not exactly that count, by age.",1062.32,1067.6,{"idx":709,"utterance_id":710,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":711,"start_s":712,"end_s":713,"word_count":187,"indexable":75},108,"175673","We have seen a very large growth of people with disabilities gaining the right to BPC by court decision.",1067.98,1076.12,{"idx":715,"utterance_id":716,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":717,"start_s":718,"end_s":719,"word_count":140,"indexable":75},109,"175674","This is a government that does not accept taking anyone's rights away.",1076.88,1080.56,{"idx":721,"utterance_id":722,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":723,"start_s":724,"end_s":725,"word_count":95,"indexable":75},110,"175675","We just don't want and cannot pay for those who do not... need it or are not within the rules.",1081.16,1087.2,{"idx":727,"utterance_id":728,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":729,"start_s":730,"end_s":731,"word_count":460,"indexable":75},111,"175676","So, for that reason, there is a whole study being analyzed, the National Congress has been debating this issue, the press has been scrutinizing it with a magnifying glass, because some rules were relaxed in 2022 and now we are seeing how much those rules opened certain doors or certain gates, as I said, in my land and in the land of Senator Wellington, who was with us until a little while ago, from Mato Grosso.",1087.24,1110.52,{"idx":733,"utterance_id":734,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":735,"start_s":736,"end_s":737,"word_count":90,"indexable":75},112,"175677","They opened some gates.",1111.04,1112.5,{"idx":739,"utterance_id":740,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":741,"start_s":742,"end_s":743,"word_count":164,"indexable":75},113,"175678","So, these are issues that... we are analyzing, like, for example, an item I saw today.",1112.76,1117.1,{"idx":745,"utterance_id":746,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":747,"start_s":748,"end_s":749,"word_count":104,"indexable":75},114,"175679","Allow me just this digression.",1117.88,1119.76,{"idx":751,"utterance_id":752,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":753,"start_s":754,"end_s":755,"word_count":328,"indexable":75},115,"175680","In 2022, there was a change where minors, BPC, PCDs, persons with disabilities who are children or young people, they have the right to payroll-deductible loans, but it required a court authorization, therefore, from the parents or guardians, so that the bank could make that payroll-deductible loan.",1120.22,1140.86,{"idx":757,"utterance_id":758,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":759,"start_s":760,"end_s":761,"word_count":97,"indexable":75},116,"175681","How did that rule fall?",1141.24,1142.88,{"idx":763,"utterance_id":764,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":765,"start_s":766,"end_s":767,"word_count":84,"indexable":75},117,"175682","to decide.",1143.28,1144.1,{"idx":769,"utterance_id":770,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":771,"start_s":772,"end_s":773,"word_count":164,"indexable":75},118,"175683","having to have a court authorization, so it is assumed that there was a significant increase in those loans.",1144.28,1152.04,{"idx":775,"utterance_id":776,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":777,"start_s":778,"end_s":779,"word_count":156,"indexable":75},119,"175684","All of this is being analyzed, that we have, according to reports, according to some data, we have not yet stressed all the numbers, half a million children or young people who have BPC who are receiving, who are having deductions from their benefits.",1152.32,1166.78,{"idx":781,"utterance_id":782,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":783,"start_s":784,"end_s":785,"word_count":164,"indexable":75},120,"175685","So, the flexibilizations made to BPC in 2022 are having a very large impact.",1167.08,1173.9,{"idx":787,"utterance_id":788,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":789,"start_s":790,"end_s":791,"word_count":74,"indexable":75},121,"175686","large in relation to these next years.",1173.92,1177.14,{"idx":793,"utterance_id":794,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":795,"start_s":796,"end_s":797,"word_count":104,"indexable":75},122,"175687","This is diagnosis, it's a fact.",1177.56,1179.04,{"idx":799,"utterance_id":800,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":801,"start_s":802,"end_s":803,"word_count":74,"indexable":75},123,"175688","We are not passing judgment.",1179.34,1180.94,{"idx":805,"utterance_id":806,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":807,"start_s":808,"end_s":809,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},124,"175689","I was in this chamber in 2022.",1181.2,1183.4,{"idx":811,"utterance_id":812,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":813,"start_s":814,"end_s":815,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},125,"175690","I voted for measures in the National Congress.",1183.64,1185.66,{"idx":817,"utterance_id":818,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":819,"start_s":820,"end_s":821,"word_count":158,"indexable":75},126,"175691","Sometimes we vote for measures and later do not know, sometimes, the impact.",1185.96,1189.58,{"idx":823,"utterance_id":824,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":825,"start_s":826,"end_s":827,"word_count":21,"indexable":75},127,"175692","There is no way to know the impact, which is why legislation exists for us to modify, discuss, debate and, sometimes, even review.",1189.64,1196.28,{"idx":829,"utterance_id":830,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":831,"start_s":832,"end_s":833,"word_count":4,"indexable":75},128,"175693","So, I raise these issues because it is not a small matter.",1196.58,1199.56,{"idx":835,"utterance_id":836,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":837,"start_s":838,"end_s":839,"word_count":74,"indexable":75},129,"175694","I am talking about 20 billion reais.",1199.58,1201.3,{"idx":841,"utterance_id":842,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":843,"start_s":844,"end_s":845,"word_count":133,"indexable":75},130,"175695","Many times... what is missing to meet the target or to close, or, and then going to the last line, where are we going to take these increases in mandatory spending from?",1201.8,1212.36,{"idx":847,"utterance_id":848,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":849,"start_s":850,"end_s":851,"word_count":140,"indexable":75},131,"175696","And this is the main focus of attention of our budget.",1212.72,1216.24,{"idx":853,"utterance_id":854,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":855,"start_s":856,"end_s":857,"word_count":181,"indexable":75},132,"175697","If you look at the last line, I think this is the main point of the entire speech.",1217,1221.52,{"idx":859,"utterance_id":860,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":861,"start_s":862,"end_s":863,"word_count":15,"indexable":75},133,"175698","In our LOA for 25, we have some discretionary expenditures, therefore free, to make the bridge that you ask for, to pavement, a series of investments in public policies, of 221.",1221.94,1238.92,{"idx":62,"utterance_id":865,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":866,"start_s":867,"end_s":868,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},"175699","That corresponds to 1.8% of GDP.",1240.54,1242.58,{"idx":870,"utterance_id":871,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":872,"start_s":873,"end_s":874,"word_count":74,"indexable":75},135,"175700","Look at how much it falls in 2026.",1243.06,1245.74,{"idx":876,"utterance_id":877,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":878,"start_s":879,"end_s":880,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},136,"175701","To 208 billion, 1.5% of GDP.",1245.86,1250.2,{"idx":882,"utterance_id":883,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":884,"start_s":885,"end_s":886,"word_count":21,"indexable":75},137,"175702","And look at how much it would fall if we didn't do anything in 2027, at the turn of the year, 122 billion reais.",1250.62,1260.4,{"idx":888,"utterance_id":889,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":890,"start_s":891,"end_s":892,"word_count":181,"indexable":75},138,"175703","I don't want to scare you, but this here, from... from this to '28, we enter a shutdown.",1260.8,1268.74,{"idx":51,"utterance_id":894,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":895,"start_s":892,"end_s":896,"word_count":110,"indexable":75},"175704","For '28 there would remain 59 and for 2029, 8.9.",1273.76,{"idx":898,"utterance_id":899,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":900,"start_s":901,"end_s":902,"word_count":311,"indexable":75},140,"175705","Here, only by legal obligation, we are presenting these numbers, which are the medium-term budgeting; obviously some measures will be presented and debated either by the Executive, or by the National Congress, or by mutual agreement of both branches.",1274.94,1290.2,{"idx":904,"utterance_id":905,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":906,"start_s":907,"end_s":908,"word_count":164,"indexable":75},141,"175706","Moving to the last two slides, very quickly, targets for the result by level of government.",1291.1,1296.3,{"idx":910,"utterance_id":911,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":912,"start_s":913,"end_s":914,"word_count":193,"indexable":75},142,"175707","The central government here is committed to running a surplus and meeting the target: the fiscal target 0.25, 0.5, 1.1 and 1.25.",1296.62,1303.06,{"idx":916,"utterance_id":917,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":918,"start_s":919,"end_s":920,"word_count":340,"indexable":75},143,"175708","State-owned enterprises with a small deficit still next year of 0.05, repeating in '27, practically repeating in '28 and '29. The states, the Federal District and municipalities, something around a minimal surplus, practically zero, target zero, 0.01 across the four years, all else constant.",1304.76,1326.7,{"idx":922,"utterance_id":923,"speaker_name":69,"speaker_slug":70,"text":924,"start_s":925,"end_s":926,"word_count":199,"indexable":75},144,"175709","And the last, the last slide — I won't go into it... 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