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Are you a duo running against candidates supported by the right?",55.04,62.3,"asks a question about the existence of a dobradinha, without an explicit position.",{"idx":60,"utterance_id":89,"speaker_name":8,"text":90,"start_s":91,"end_s":92,"word_count":93,"topic_slug":68,"topic_label":69,"target_id":70,"target_proposition":71,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":73,"rationale":94,"indexable":13},"80369","Or when you... The question is whether you are together, whether one asks for votes for the other.",65.24,70.32,17,"asks whether one candidate asks for votes for the other, without taking a stance.",{"idx":96,"utterance_id":97,"speaker_name":8,"text":98,"start_s":99,"end_s":100,"word_count":76,"topic_slug":68,"topic_label":69,"target_id":70,"target_proposition":71,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":73,"rationale":101,"indexable":13},12,"80370","Whether it's a ticket against the right or not?",70.44,73.84,"repeats the question about being a dobradinha against the right, without taking a position.",{"idx":103,"utterance_id":104,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":105,"start_s":106,"end_s":107,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":68,"topic_label":69,"target_id":70,"target_proposition":71,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":110,"indexable":13},13,"80371","Without any doubt it's a duo, Mara.",75.04,77.18,"a_favor",0.95,"explicitly declares 'Sem dúvida nenhuma é uma dobradinha'.",{"idx":112,"utterance_id":113,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":114,"start_s":115,"end_s":116,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},14,"80372","And I'll explain quickly why.",77.34,79.06,{"idx":118,"utterance_id":119,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":120,"start_s":121,"end_s":122,"word_count":123,"indexable":13},15,"80373","The big issue today, I believe this will be the most important election in the history of our lives, and I'm basically talking about the presidential election — to avoid the impression that we're asking for votes here or doing early campaigning, I'm talking about the electoral process.",80.28,96.58,50,{"idx":39,"utterance_id":125,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":126,"start_s":127,"end_s":128,"word_count":129,"indexable":13},"80374","I, who have already participated in seven elections in my life and have followed politics since redemocratization, have been active in politics officially since 1989.",97.12,107.2,22,{"idx":93,"utterance_id":131,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":132,"start_s":133,"end_s":134,"word_count":67,"indexable":13},"80375","We are... We are facing an inflection point: what Brazil do we want for the coming years; and I'm not talking about the next four years, I'm talking about the next 12 years or more.",107.26,119.18,{"idx":136,"utterance_id":137,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":138,"start_s":139,"end_s":140,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},18,"80376","That's what's at stake.",119.6,120.82,{"idx":46,"utterance_id":142,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":143,"start_s":144,"end_s":145,"word_count":146,"indexable":13},"80377","So when we are talking about a national project, strategic planning, about effectively removing the country from that shameful sore of being one of the most unequal countries in the world, being so rich as a nation but still with such a poor people, the project cannot be individual.",120.9,137.82,47,{"idx":148,"utterance_id":149,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":150,"start_s":151,"end_s":152,"word_count":39,"indexable":13},20,"80378","It can't be like: the most important project of my life is my own election.",138.28,143,{"idx":154,"utterance_id":155,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":156,"start_s":157,"end_s":158,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},21,"80379","No, it's a national project, that country that structures its economy, that looks to the people.",143.44,150.08,{"idx":129,"utterance_id":160,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":161,"start_s":162,"end_s":163,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},"80380","that envisions and plans.",150.36,151.68,{"idx":165,"utterance_id":166,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":167,"start_s":168,"end_s":169,"word_count":170,"indexable":13},23,"80381","Not a country where we have a personalistic, family-centered project, in which specific issues that are irrelevant to people's lives, that do not put food on the worker's table, are being presented.",152.06,166.76,34,{"idx":172,"utterance_id":173,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":174,"start_s":175,"end_s":176,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},24,"80382","So, I know I'm not only speaking for myself, but I speak for Marina.",167.16,169.9,{"idx":178,"utterance_id":179,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":180,"start_s":181,"end_s":182,"word_count":46,"indexable":13},25,"80383","Our elections and possible victories are extremely relevant, but not without a group that shares the same thinking.",170.46,179.26,{"idx":184,"utterance_id":185,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":186,"start_s":187,"end_s":188,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},26,"80384","of a project for our youth, for our workers, for our 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recommend that everyone — listening to your doctors, of course, and those in risk groups — get vaccinated again, if necessary.",313.64,325.44,"explicitly recommends that people in risk groups get revaccinated.",{"idx":348,"utterance_id":349,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":350,"start_s":351,"end_s":352,"word_count":184,"topic_slug":335,"topic_label":336,"target_id":337,"target_proposition":338,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":353,"indexable":202},48,"80406","We are seeing the return of diseases that were previously eradicated, that kill, that cause serious health problems in our children and in our society.",325.74,335.9,"warns about the return of eradicated diseases, linking it to weakened 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have happiness, whether we have dignity, whether we have freedom or not.",406.46,414.18,{"idx":415,"utterance_id":416,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":417,"start_s":418,"end_s":419,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},56,"80414","That's what we're dealing with.",414.74,415.82,{"idx":421,"utterance_id":422,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":423,"start_s":424,"end_s":425,"word_count":426,"indexable":13},57,"80415","Whether we have a free press — for you to be able to ask any question you want to me or not, for me to be able to come and go without fear of the police at my door arresting me — it's my right to vote and to have... the sacred results of the polls obeyed, even if my candidate loses the elections, and so 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measure.",{"idx":512,"utterance_id":513,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":514,"start_s":515,"end_s":516,"word_count":41,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":517,"rationale":518,"indexable":13},70,"80428","But is it to 12 years?",526.18,527.26,0.55,"Poses rhetorical questions about specific ages without clear commitment.",{"idx":520,"utterance_id":521,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":522,"start_s":523,"end_s":524,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},71,"80429","No, Marcelo.",527.46,528.06,{"idx":526,"utterance_id":527,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":528,"start_s":529,"end_s":530,"word_count":34,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":517,"rationale":531,"indexable":13},72,"80430","To 14 years?",528.2,529.04,"Poses a rhetorical question about 14 years, indicating openness to debate but not 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doubt.",531.96,532.5,{"idx":552,"utterance_id":553,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":554,"start_s":555,"end_s":556,"word_count":103,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":489,"rationale":557,"indexable":13},76,"80434","In a democracy nothing is forbidden, but it cannot come only with that.",532.76,535.82,"States that the measure cannot come in isolation, not supporting a pure and simple reduction.",{"idx":559,"utterance_id":560,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":561,"start_s":562,"end_s":563,"word_count":76,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":489,"rationale":564,"indexable":13},77,"80435","It cannot be applied for any kind of crime.",536.12,538.34,"Sets limits on the types of crimes, keeping a conditional stance.",{"idx":566,"utterance_id":567,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":568,"start_s":569,"end_s":570,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":571,"rationale":572,"indexable":13},78,"80436","And much less can it be applied only to the poorest.",538.7,541.44,0.65,"Condemns selective enforcement against the poorest, making any reduction conditional.",{"idx":574,"utterance_id":575,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":576,"start_s":577,"end_s":578,"word_count":216,"indexable":13},79,"80437","And again, speaking as someone from agribusiness, speaking as someone who has money, speaking as someone who is center-right, speaking as someone who is not 'luluzinha'.",541.72,549.4,{"idx":580,"utterance_id":581,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":582,"start_s":583,"end_s":584,"word_count":261,"indexable":13},80,"80438","I apologize, Marcelo, because I take any kind of criticism and accept any kind of criticism, but I would never reduce Brazilian women using terms that we've fought against our whole lives.",550.22,564.4,{"idx":586,"utterance_id":587,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":588,"start_s":589,"end_s":590,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},81,"80439","We don't call any man 'Joãozinho' or 'Zezinho'; we respect differences in a democracy and can engage in dialogue while thinking differently — long live democracy for that reason.",565.06,578.92,{"idx":592,"utterance_id":593,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":594,"start_s":595,"end_s":596,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},82,"80440","I take criticism very naturally.",580.04,583.76,{"idx":598,"utterance_id":599,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":600,"start_s":601,"end_s":602,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},83,"80441","In fact, they help me.",583.86,585.16,{"idx":604,"utterance_id":605,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":606,"start_s":607,"end_s":608,"word_count":172,"indexable":13},84,"80442","And when you provoke me, Marcelo, I thank you, because it makes me think or rethink my concepts, even as a lawyer and jurist.",585.88,594.66,{"idx":610,"utterance_id":611,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":612,"start_s":613,"end_s":614,"word_count":165,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":486,"target_proposition":487,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":615,"rationale":616,"indexable":13},85,"80443","But I see no problem in discussing the age of criminal responsibility within rules, provided that we are not talking only about a punitive system.",594.98,604.46,0.62,"Supports discussion within rules and criticizes a purely punitive approach.",{"idx":618,"utterance_id":619,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":620,"start_s":621,"end_s":622,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":623,"topic_label":624,"target_id":625,"target_proposition":626,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":628,"indexable":13},86,"80444","A criminal's place is in jail.",604.86,607.44,"sistema-de-justica-juvenil","Juvenile justice system","b7ecdb03-690e-45a4-b87c-641ebf147708","arrest those involved in corruption scandals",0.85,"Affirms 'lugar de bandido é na cadeia', defending incarceration after conviction.",{"idx":630,"utterance_id":631,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":632,"start_s":633,"end_s":634,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":623,"topic_label":624,"target_id":635,"target_proposition":636,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":637,"indexable":202},87,"80445","Open the process, full defense, adversarial proceedings — a female criminal's place is in jail.",608.12,611.48,"0c6e0b2e-6e6c-426a-ae6a-e8fd16d94fa6","guarantee adversarial proceedings and full defense in plea bargain cases","Demands opening proceedings with full defense and adversarial process before arrest.",{"idx":639,"utterance_id":640,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":641,"start_s":642,"end_s":643,"word_count":46,"topic_slug":623,"topic_label":624,"target_id":644,"target_proposition":645,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":646,"indexable":202},88,"80446","What cannot happen is to imprison some and leave others free, because some have good lawyers and others do not.",611.9,618.34,"b645cda1-3b59-40dc-a69b-267c4937cadb","guarantee equal access to defense and equality before the law","Criticizes selective arrests due to inequality in access to good lawyers.",{"idx":648,"utterance_id":649,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":650,"start_s":651,"end_s":652,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":623,"topic_label":624,"target_id":635,"target_proposition":636,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":653,"indexable":202},89,"80447","You simply can't arrest without any inquiry, without any kind of defense.",618.62,624.28,"Prohibits arrest without an inquiry or defense, defending due process of law.",{"idx":655,"utterance_id":656,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":657,"start_s":658,"end_s":659,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},90,"80448","So that's it, it's this country.",624.62,626.3,{"idx":661,"utterance_id":662,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":663,"start_s":664,"end_s":665,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":666,"topic_label":667,"target_id":668,"target_proposition":669,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":670,"indexable":13},91,"80449","It's against this polarized country that I fight.",626.58,628.68,"polarizacao-politica-e-divisao-do-pais","Political Polarization","7515ee6f-b469-4db1-a2b3-734fe7ee9836","reduce political polarization and promote national unity","Declares fighting against a polarized country and defending dialogue and reasonableness.",{"idx":672,"utterance_id":673,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":674,"start_s":675,"end_s":676,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":666,"topic_label":667,"target_id":668,"target_proposition":669,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":677,"indexable":202},92,"80450","Virtue is always in the middle; it's always in common sense, in dialogue, in reasonableness.",629.02,634.08,"Says virtue lies in the middle, advocating dialogue and political reasonableness.",{"idx":679,"utterance_id":680,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":681,"start_s":682,"end_s":683,"word_count":129,"indexable":13},93,"80451","Brazil used to be like that; Brazil is about diversity, Brazil has always welcomed everyone, Brazil has 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democracy.'",661.24,667.62,{"idx":703,"utterance_id":704,"speaker_name":8,"text":705,"start_s":706,"end_s":707,"word_count":22,"indexable":13},97,"80455","Speak, Evandra.",668.78,669.7,{"idx":709,"utterance_id":710,"speaker_name":8,"text":711,"start_s":712,"end_s":713,"word_count":505,"indexable":13},98,"80456","Minister, I was following the convention in São Paulo, in Campinas, when Haddad was launched. You ladies, all of you, were there. Then Lula spoke about your father, Senator Ramos Tevet — he was the one, as president of the Congress, who gave Lula the oath as president — and Lula made the comment that he signed and did not return the pen to your father.",671.54,698.94,{"idx":715,"utterance_id":716,"speaker_name":8,"text":717,"start_s":718,"end_s":719,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},99,"80457","Then you went to whisper in his ear; I don't know if it leaked or not.",699.4,701.74,{"idx":721,"utterance_id":722,"speaker_name":8,"text":723,"start_s":724,"end_s":725,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},100,"80458","He said, 'I did not return you, ma'am; I return myself in votes, Mr. President.'",702.52,705.64,{"idx":727,"utterance_id":728,"speaker_name":8,"text":729,"start_s":730,"end_s":731,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},101,"80459","I found that remark quite interesting.",706.04,709.22,{"idx":391,"utterance_id":733,"speaker_name":8,"text":734,"start_s":735,"end_s":736,"word_count":82,"indexable":13},"80460","But my question is the following, regarding the campaign.",709.88,713.8,{"idx":738,"utterance_id":739,"speaker_name":8,"text":740,"start_s":741,"end_s":742,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},103,"80461","You are doing well in São Paulo, Marina is doing well, President Lula is tied with Flávio — perhaps the most, I think, surprising result.",715.26,727.1,{"idx":744,"utterance_id":745,"speaker_name":8,"text":746,"start_s":747,"end_s":748,"word_count":604,"topic_slug":68,"topic_label":69,"target_id":749,"target_proposition":750,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":751,"indexable":13},104,"80462","In this campaign, Lula lost by 12 points to Jair Bolsonaro in 2022, and has already been reducing the difference, with a strong presence of Alckmin on the ticket, and now we see the reverse scenario, which is Haddad facing great difficulty — well, he also had difficulty in 2022 — but Haddad, I ask whether there is any strategy for you to act together, how to boost Haddad's candidacy; if you understand, I believe so, that it is essential to get Haddad into the second round.",728,761.08,"abd9b2a8-dd6c-4a09-a269-a08a4c8786d1","run and compete in the second round","Asks about strategies to get Haddad into the second round, without expressing an opinion.",{"idx":753,"utterance_id":754,"speaker_name":8,"text":755,"start_s":756,"end_s":757,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},105,"80463","Do you see any prospect of changing the scenario indicated by today's polls?",761.4,764.9,{"idx":759,"utterance_id":760,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":761,"start_s":762,"end_s":763,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},106,"80464","Let's go: the pen story — I didn't know it had leaked, I'm learning about it firsthand here.",767.02,772.16,{"idx":765,"utterance_id":766,"speaker_name":8,"text":767,"start_s":768,"end_s":769,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},107,"80465","We're the ones listening from home.",773.18,775.14,{"idx":771,"utterance_id":772,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":773,"start_s":774,"end_s":775,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},108,"80466","And to briefly explain the pen story as well, to put it very quickly here.",776.8,780.58,{"idx":777,"utterance_id":778,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":779,"start_s":780,"end_s":781,"word_count":355,"indexable":13},109,"80467","President Lula — my father, who was, what a beauty of democracy, my father who had been a minister under Fernando Henrique Cardoso — was President of the National Congress, and obviously had to administer the oath, and with great joy, because he was a president democratically elected by the people, his inauguration as president took place in the National Congress.",781.24,799.98,{"idx":783,"utterance_id":784,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":785,"start_s":786,"end_s":787,"word_count":165,"indexable":13},110,"80468","President Lula had forgotten the pen that he insisted on using to sign; a friend had given it to him, he said.",800.06,807.64,{"idx":789,"utterance_id":790,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":791,"start_s":792,"end_s":793,"word_count":227,"indexable":13},111,"80469","'This is for your inauguration.' He lost the first election, lost the second election, and then when he won he forgot the pen; my father took a pen out of his pocket and gave it to him.",807.68,815.42,{"idx":795,"utterance_id":796,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":797,"start_s":798,"end_s":799,"word_count":170,"indexable":13},112,"80470","And when he went to take it back, the master of ceremonies said, 'Look, now this pen is part of the historical collection; it will be recorded in the annals,' or something like that.",815.8,827.6,{"idx":801,"utterance_id":802,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":803,"start_s":804,"end_s":805,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},113,"80471","My father joked and said, 'I lost the pen, but I administered the presidential oath, right?',''",827.68,831.3,{"idx":807,"utterance_id":808,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":809,"start_s":810,"end_s":811,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},114,"80472","So that joke, I think the president remembered that.",831.7,834.76,{"idx":813,"utterance_id":814,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":815,"start_s":816,"end_s":817,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},115,"80473","Regarding the electoral process, Evandro, there is no election already won just as there is no election already lost, especially in these times when 24 hours is already an eternity in politics.",835.5,845.8,{"idx":819,"utterance_id":820,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":821,"start_s":822,"end_s":823,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},116,"80474","Today you wake up one way, tomorrow another.",846.38,848.36,{"idx":825,"utterance_id":826,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":827,"start_s":828,"end_s":829,"word_count":82,"indexable":13},117,"80475","We have a snapshot, and you are right, in the snapshot.",848.4,851.6,{"idx":831,"utterance_id":832,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":833,"start_s":834,"end_s":835,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},118,"80476","Today we appear better, for example, in offices such as the Presidency of the Republic.",851.68,856.88,{"idx":837,"utterance_id":838,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":839,"start_s":840,"end_s":841,"word_count":285,"indexable":13},119,"80477","And the Senate, and we are having difficulty, as happens in all states — this is a later discussion, about whether to end re-election or not, and who you are competing against, especially in the state executive when the governor is the incumbent.",857.74,878.2,{"idx":843,"utterance_id":844,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":845,"start_s":846,"end_s":847,"word_count":848,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":849,"target_proposition":850,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":851,"indexable":202},120,"80478","Within that process... Yes, today candidate Haddad is having more difficulty, but I believe that when the numbers begin to appear, when some truths emerge, when some allegations are clarified, and especially because it fits Haddad's profile, when he presents his proposals especially in the area of public security — which is an Achilles' heel of the State of São Paulo — and we need to solve this with intelligence, strategic planning, and real political will and coordination, because today we are talking about organized crime, PCC and CV, which are no longer only in the State of São Paulo — they are throughout Brazil and are committing transnational crimes. When Haddad presents his proposal — he was Minister of Education, in the area of Education among others — I believe these numbers will change.",878.52,930.32,135,"554b78d9-4efe-4a8b-90b3-63d8efd356b8","reduce homicides and combat organized crime","States that Haddad's presentation of security proposals will change electoral numbers.",{"idx":853,"utterance_id":854,"speaker_name":8,"text":855,"start_s":856,"end_s":857,"word_count":39,"indexable":13},121,"80479","Minister, Caroline says, 'Good morning, Minister; very happy to have you by our side.'",931.86,938.8,{"idx":859,"utterance_id":860,"speaker_name":8,"text":861,"start_s":862,"end_s":863,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},122,"80480","And Elton Souto says, 'Tebet never gets cold, for she is always wrapped in righteousness.'",941.16,947.96,{"idx":865,"utterance_id":866,"speaker_name":8,"text":867,"start_s":868,"end_s":869,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},123,"80481","Strength and onward to victory.",948.58,950.22,{"idx":871,"utterance_id":872,"speaker_name":8,"text":873,"start_s":874,"end_s":875,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},124,"80482","Cheering directly from Paraíba.",950.34,952.64,{"idx":877,"utterance_id":878,"speaker_name":8,"text":879,"start_s":880,"end_s":881,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},125,"80483","Elton is in Paraíba.",953.46,954.66,{"idx":883,"utterance_id":884,"speaker_name":8,"text":885,"start_s":886,"end_s":887,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},126,"80484","You have many fans here in the chat.",954.76,958.58,{"idx":889,"utterance_id":890,"speaker_name":8,"text":891,"start_s":892,"end_s":893,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},127,"80485","Now they're asking you about interest rates in Brazil and public debt.",959.36,965.34,{"idx":895,"utterance_id":896,"speaker_name":8,"text":897,"start_s":898,"end_s":899,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},128,"80486","There are several questions here.",966.1,967.4,{"idx":901,"utterance_id":902,"speaker_name":8,"text":903,"start_s":904,"end_s":905,"word_count":255,"indexable":13},129,"80487","Anyway, I'll read the names later, but basically these questions ask the following: you as minister, what do you say about the debt — about having left such a high debt and such high interest rates?",970.1,983.3,{"idx":907,"utterance_id":908,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":909,"start_s":910,"end_s":911,"word_count":216,"indexable":13},130,"80488","The question, I think, is a very important question from all of you; this is the great... challenge that Brazil will have starting in January 2027.",984.4,994.3,{"idx":913,"utterance_id":914,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":915,"start_s":916,"end_s":917,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":918,"topic_label":919,"target_id":920,"target_proposition":921,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":922,"indexable":202},131,"80489","Public debt has a lot to do with spending and with projects that are approved within the National Congress, which we call 'pauta-bomba' measures.",994.66,1003.32,"politica-fiscal-e-social","Fiscal and Social Policy","11af2081-c6ac-43df-8626-73389d983841","reduce public debt and combat embezzlement\u002Fcorruption to balance the books","Attributes the debt to expanded spending and calls for responsibility and review of expenses.",{"idx":924,"utterance_id":925,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":926,"start_s":927,"end_s":928,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},132,"80490","That responsibility needs to be shared.",1003.76,1006.4,{"idx":930,"utterance_id":931,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":932,"start_s":933,"end_s":934,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},133,"80491","Again, I speak as someone who has been a senator, who has witnessed four Presidents of the Republic while in office between my time as senator and as minister of State, and I can assure you...",1006.72,1016.96,{"idx":936,"utterance_id":937,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":938,"start_s":939,"end_s":940,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},134,"80492","They all expand fiscal spending and, regrettably, with the connivance of the National Congress.",1017.42,1025.34,{"idx":848,"utterance_id":942,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":943,"start_s":944,"end_s":945,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},"80493","It is indeed connivance, when it is not the National Congress itself that provokes these fiscal expenditures.",1025.48,1032.16,{"idx":947,"utterance_id":948,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":949,"start_s":950,"end_s":951,"word_count":178,"indexable":13},136,"80494","This question requires me, even if very briefly, to speak a little about what Brazil lacks, which is a culture of planning.",1033.14,1040.68,{"idx":953,"utterance_id":954,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":955,"start_s":956,"end_s":957,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},137,"80495","Brazil is one of the only countries of its size in the world that does not have the culture of planning the next 12 to 20 years.",1041.1,1049.62,{"idx":959,"utterance_id":960,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":961,"start_s":962,"end_s":963,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},138,"80496","It only plans in four-year cycles.",1049.94,1052.06,{"idx":965,"utterance_id":966,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":967,"start_s":968,"end_s":969,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},139,"80497","And that makes all the difference.",1052.52,1054.04,{"idx":971,"utterance_id":972,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":973,"start_s":974,"end_s":975,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},140,"80498","Because if you don't have a nautical chart — where do I want to get to?",1054.08,1057.86,{"idx":977,"utterance_id":978,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":979,"start_s":980,"end_s":981,"word_count":526,"indexable":13},141,"80499","When I want to get there and how to get there, in any area — whether public health, security, education, housing construction, infrastructure works, job creation, reducing interest rates and reducing public debt — I am subject to vicissitudes, not only external ones, as is happening; so some of the high interest rates and the debt itself come exactly, regrettably, from that instability.",1058.24,1084.18,{"idx":983,"utterance_id":984,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":985,"start_s":986,"end_s":987,"word_count":267,"indexable":13},142,"80500","From crises, from wars in the region where we import oil and with a very high barrel price, the price of everything, from food to other goods, rises; with high inflation comes high interest rates, and there are also internal factors.",1085.44,1100.18,{"idx":152,"utterance_id":989,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":990,"start_s":991,"end_s":992,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},"80501","We need a National Congress that does its homework.",1101.08,1104.38,{"idx":994,"utterance_id":995,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":996,"start_s":997,"end_s":998,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":918,"topic_label":919,"target_id":999,"target_proposition":1000,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1001,"indexable":202},144,"80502","You don't need to cut any essential public program.",1104.68,1107.84,"23a907a3-210a-4535-991b-93575c7a3002","maintain and protect essential social programs (e.g., Bolsa Família)","States it's not necessary to cut essential public policies like Bolsa Família.",{"idx":1003,"utterance_id":1004,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1005,"start_s":1006,"end_s":1007,"word_count":53,"indexable":13},145,"80503","You don't need to cut Bolsa Família, except for those who do not deserve it — we did that: we removed people who, after the pandemic, were receiving it and were not entitled to Bolsa Família.",1108.24,1117.62,{"idx":1009,"utterance_id":1010,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1011,"start_s":1012,"end_s":1013,"word_count":227,"indexable":13},146,"80504","You don't need to take medicine out of health clinics; on the contrary, you also don't need to reduce public investments, because without public investment you don't turn the wheels of the economy.",1117.92,1128.26,{"idx":1015,"utterance_id":1016,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1017,"start_s":1018,"end_s":1019,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},147,"80505","What you need is courage.",1128.58,1130.28,{"idx":1021,"utterance_id":1022,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1023,"start_s":1024,"end_s":1025,"word_count":574,"topic_slug":918,"topic_label":919,"target_id":1026,"target_proposition":1027,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1028,"indexable":202},148,"80506","And we tried to do that by reviewing expenditures, cutting... not only the mistakes we made, but cutting what is superfluous. I'm talking about the wasteful expenditures of the branches of government; I'm talking about excessive salaries; I'm talking about parliamentary amendments, which today have confiscated and hijacked the Brazilian budget. I'm especially talking about secret amendments, amendments without transparency — I'm talking about 60 billion reais. We must have the courage to review some tax expenditures.",1130.6,1161.54,"7d5cf83a-81cb-406c-b2d4-12f1d8689416","review and make parliamentary amendments and tax benefits transparent","Supports reviewing secret amendments and wasteful spending, citing R$60 bilhões.",{"idx":1030,"utterance_id":1031,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1032,"start_s":1033,"end_s":1034,"word_count":82,"indexable":13},149,"80507","Which we sought to do, but the National Congress blocked it.",1161.88,1165.26,{"idx":1036,"utterance_id":1037,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1038,"start_s":1039,"end_s":1040,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},150,"80508","So, I think it's a combination of factors.",1165.7,1167.88,{"idx":1042,"utterance_id":1043,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1044,"start_s":1045,"end_s":1046,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},151,"80509","The two questions go together.",1168.1,1170.26,{"idx":1048,"utterance_id":1049,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1050,"start_s":1051,"end_s":1052,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},152,"80510","Is it necessary to reduce public debt?",1171.44,1173.58,{"idx":1054,"utterance_id":1055,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1056,"start_s":1057,"end_s":1058,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},153,"80511","Is it possible to reduce public debt?",1174.1,1176.56,{"idx":1060,"utterance_id":1061,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1062,"start_s":1063,"end_s":1064,"word_count":129,"topic_slug":918,"topic_label":919,"target_id":920,"target_proposition":921,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1065,"indexable":202},154,"80512","And we will have to reduce public debt starting in January 2027 with a different National Congress that has that responsibility.",1176.86,1184.56,"Affirms the need to reduce public debt with a responsible new Congress.",{"idx":1067,"utterance_id":1068,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1069,"start_s":1070,"end_s":1071,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},155,"80513","With this one we also had a lot of difficulty.",1184.72,1186.86,{"idx":1073,"utterance_id":1074,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1075,"start_s":1076,"end_s":1077,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},156,"80514","Parallel to that, the consequence is a fall in interest rates.",1187.62,1190.58,{"idx":1079,"utterance_id":1080,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1081,"start_s":1082,"end_s":1083,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":307,"topic_label":308,"target_id":1084,"target_proposition":1085,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1087,"indexable":202},157,"80515","But I personally believe — and note that I voted in favor of Central Bank autonomy — that the Central Bank was very conservative and delayed the drop in interest rates.",1190.88,1201.02,"e6a2a07d-0a1c-49c9-8834-5d0475590a62","reduce the Selic rate",0.8,"Criticizes the Central Bank's conservatism and says the interest rate cut was delayed.",{"idx":1089,"utterance_id":1090,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1091,"start_s":1092,"end_s":1093,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},158,"80516","It would have been possible for us to have lower interest rates now without causing inflation.",1201.1,1206.68,{"idx":1095,"utterance_id":1096,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1097,"start_s":1098,"end_s":1099,"word_count":184,"indexable":13},159,"80517","It just came out, Mara — I think it was yesterday or today in the media, I think it was yesterday — that we had almost zero inflation this month.",1206.8,1215.16,{"idx":1101,"utterance_id":1102,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1103,"start_s":1104,"end_s":1105,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},160,"80518","What does that mean?",1216.04,1216.82,{"idx":1107,"utterance_id":1108,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1109,"start_s":1110,"end_s":1111,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":307,"topic_label":308,"target_id":1084,"target_proposition":1085,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1112,"indexable":202},161,"80519","That it is possible to be less conservative regarding interest rate cuts in Brazil.",1217.1,1223.4,"States that current interest rates hinder growth, advocating a rate cut.",{"idx":1114,"utterance_id":1115,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1116,"start_s":1117,"end_s":1118,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},162,"80520","Interest rates in Brazil are hindering the development and growth of the country, the resumption of financing by companies, by the services and commerce sector — which are the ones that generate employment.",1223.94,1234.22,{"idx":1120,"utterance_id":1121,"speaker_name":8,"text":1122,"start_s":1123,"end_s":1124,"word_count":136,"indexable":13},163,"80521","Marcos Gavan — minister, the question... Just a minute, Evandro, let me just ask Marcos's question.",1235.1,1240.02,{"idx":1126,"utterance_id":1127,"speaker_name":8,"text":1128,"start_s":1129,"end_s":1130,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},164,"80522","He says like this... Marcos Gavan, that's his name.",1240.56,1244.02,{"idx":1132,"utterance_id":1133,"speaker_name":8,"text":1134,"start_s":1135,"end_s":1136,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},165,"80523","Simone, the State of São Paulo is being abandoned by its senators.",1244.32,1248.34,{"idx":1138,"utterance_id":1139,"speaker_name":8,"text":1140,"start_s":1141,"end_s":1142,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},166,"80524","Explain what a state's senator is obligated to do.",1248.88,1253.44,{"idx":1144,"utterance_id":1145,"speaker_name":8,"text":1146,"start_s":1147,"end_s":1148,"word_count":82,"indexable":13},167,"80525","Many have that doubt and vote based on candidate endorsements.",1254.04,1258.2,{"idx":1150,"utterance_id":1151,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1152,"start_s":1153,"end_s":1154,"word_count":178,"topic_slug":1155,"topic_label":1156,"target_id":1157,"target_proposition":1158,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1159,"indexable":202},168,"80526","Well, first of all, to serve the State by bringing resources, infrastructure works and funds for all state secretariats, whoever the governor may be.",1259.46,1271.5,"democracia-e-representacao","Democracy and Representation","a28d2c2d-d3d7-4824-af4b-f38ecac5bb08","represent the State in Brasília and seek funding and public works","Defines the senator's role as representing the state and bringing resources to secretariats.",{"idx":1161,"utterance_id":1162,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1163,"start_s":1164,"end_s":1165,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},169,"80527","A senator's role is to represent the State in Brasília, fighting for the State's interests.",1272.2,1277.7,{"idx":1167,"utterance_id":1168,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1169,"start_s":1170,"end_s":1171,"word_count":170,"topic_slug":307,"topic_label":308,"target_id":1172,"target_proposition":1173,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":1174,"indexable":13},170,"80528","Both macro issues — and that involves the country as well, such as interest rate cuts, as was said, discussing spending to reduce inflation, national issues — but basically the senator represents the State for which he or she was elected.",1278.08,1291.66,"ebaf279f-2ae3-4cc9-9d95-81d3d07b6c09","reduce public spending","Proposes 'discutir gastos para diminuir a inflação' as a measure.",{"idx":1176,"utterance_id":1177,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1178,"start_s":1179,"end_s":1180,"word_count":703,"topic_slug":1181,"topic_label":1182,"target_id":1183,"target_proposition":1184,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1185,"indexable":202},171,"80529","And in parallel to that — and this is lamentably lacking today in São Paulo — a senator should be municipalist, who knows the reality of the municipalities. I was mayor twice; I know how much the interior suffers; I know how abandoned the interior of São Paulo is, its city halls and their mayors. People live in the towns; I myself propose to be a municipalist senator, opening the office to the 645 municipalities, listening to the mayors and their demands. São Paulo has several realities; the capital and the metropolitan region have their own reality.",1292.08,1331.9,"federalismo-e-descentralizacao","Federalism and Decentralization","42921db4-033b-4826-9229-021127c451b2","strengthen municipal representation in the Senate","Declares herself a 'senadora municipalista' and proposes opening her office to municipalities.",{"idx":1187,"utterance_id":1188,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1189,"start_s":1190,"end_s":1191,"word_count":216,"topic_slug":1192,"topic_label":1193,"target_id":1194,"target_proposition":1195,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":1196,"indexable":202},172,"80530","So, within the question: solve the public transport problem, strongly promote the zero-fare policy and address mobility with effective integration of transport modes.",1332.22,1344.04,"mobilidade-urbana-e-logistica","Urban Mobility and Logistics","e37c4be8-c4a1-4e7c-be7e-f457c27616d5","improve urban mobility and logistics","Explicitly proposes 'tarifa zero' and integration of transport modes.",{"idx":1198,"utterance_id":1199,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1200,"start_s":1201,"end_s":1202,"word_count":227,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1203,"target_proposition":1204,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":1205,"indexable":202},173,"80531","And the issue of public security, which has to be coordinated with the Armed Forces and the Federal Police; there must be a Ministry of Public Security to be able to focus on this matter.",1345.46,1356.06,"ae70fd90-069a-4cd8-8d9a-d7814827dfae","Establish national public security coordination to combat organized crime","Says 'tem que ter um Ministério de Segurança Pública' and coordination with the Forces.",{"idx":1207,"utterance_id":1208,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1209,"start_s":1210,"end_s":1211,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},174,"80532","So, they are basically three.",1356.46,1358.28,{"idx":1213,"utterance_id":1214,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1215,"start_s":1216,"end_s":1217,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},175,"80533","Three major responsibilities.",1358.94,1360.36,{"idx":1219,"utterance_id":1220,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1221,"start_s":1222,"end_s":1223,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":1224,"topic_label":1225,"target_id":1226,"target_proposition":1227,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1228,"indexable":202},176,"80534","Represent the State, bringing investments and resources for the governor and for mayors to carry out public works.",1360.44,1366.7,"infraestrutura-e-atracao-de-investimentos","Infrastructure & Investment","567fb7e8-5449-4ada-9396-4cf5e26585c3","attract federal investments for state and municipal public works","Proposes 'trazer investimentos e recursos' for governors and mayors.",{"idx":1230,"utterance_id":1231,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1232,"start_s":1233,"end_s":1234,"word_count":170,"topic_slug":1235,"topic_label":1236,"target_id":1237,"target_proposition":1238,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1239,"indexable":202},177,"80535","Second, obviously, to approve laws of national interest that address the reality of the State of São Paulo, which is not the same reality as the North or the Northeast.",1367.3,1379.56,"processo-legislativo","Legislative Process","cd0bb7d3-122c-49f6-a1d1-2a9594f6d624","pass laws that meet the population's needs","Argues for approving laws that address different state realities.",{"idx":1241,"utterance_id":1242,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1243,"start_s":1244,"end_s":1245,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},178,"80536","So, always keeping that focus.",1379.6,1383.84,{"idx":1247,"utterance_id":1248,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1249,"start_s":1250,"end_s":1251,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":307,"topic_label":308,"target_id":1252,"target_proposition":1253,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":1254,"indexable":13},179,"80537","And, obviously, advance national development, because if Brazil does well, the Brazilian states will do well too.",1384.7,1392.58,"a7b69a69-0529-4e76-abcf-b2d394f09906","promote robust economic growth","States that it is necessary to 'avançar no desenvolvimento nacional'.",{"idx":1256,"utterance_id":1257,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1258,"start_s":1259,"end_s":1260,"word_count":210,"topic_slug":1261,"topic_label":1262,"target_id":1263,"target_proposition":1264,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":1265,"indexable":13},180,"80538","Now it's important, Evandro, to notice how São Paulo and Brazilian society, Mara, are starting to become aware of the importance of voting well for the Federal Senate.",1395.22,1409.2,"instituicoes","Institutions","7e5a1504-73a3-4f93-aa2a-0f6e643341c6","elect qualified senators","stresses the importance of 'votar bem para o Senado'.",{"idx":1267,"utterance_id":1268,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1269,"start_s":1270,"end_s":1271,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},181,"80539","At this moment, that reality has begun to change, because the Federal Senate has powers that the Chamber does not have, and that the President of the Republic also does not have.",1409.26,1417.12,{"idx":1273,"utterance_id":1274,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1275,"start_s":1276,"end_s":1277,"word_count":433,"topic_slug":1278,"topic_label":1279,"target_id":1280,"target_proposition":1281,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":1282,"indexable":13},182,"80540","Today the Senate has the power to appoint justices of the Supreme Court (STF), to change structures; it appoints to the bodies that regulate, the regulatory agencies, the authorities who will serve on them — we're talking about Sabesp, Enel, privatizations, transport like the metro — all this confusion regarding the provision of these services that are not being delivered with quality after privatization.",1417.62,1445.98,"reforma-do-servico-publico","Public Service Reform","6d0a8ca6-2bf2-409d-9674-3aad4e2dfb12","strengthen oversight of privatizations and the provision of regulated services","describes post-privatization problems without presenting a detailed proposal in this speech.",{"idx":1284,"utterance_id":1285,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1286,"start_s":1287,"end_s":1288,"word_count":165,"indexable":13},183,"80541","Well then, a senator makes appointments to the National Transport Agency, to the National Water Agency, to the National Energy Agency,",1446.36,1454.46,{"idx":1290,"utterance_id":1291,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1292,"start_s":1293,"end_s":1294,"word_count":15,"indexable":13},184,"80542","etc.",1454.52,1454.66,{"idx":1296,"utterance_id":1297,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1298,"start_s":1299,"end_s":1300,"word_count":60,"topic_slug":1278,"topic_label":1279,"target_id":1301,"target_proposition":1302,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":1304,"indexable":202},185,"80543","who will be the people to oversee that kind of activity.",1455.3,1459.26,"158be85f-c839-44c0-9958-8746d48197a7","strengthen oversight of privatizations and regulatory agencies",0.75,"rhetorically asks 'quem vai fiscalizar', indicating support for more oversight.",{"idx":1306,"utterance_id":1307,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1308,"start_s":1309,"end_s":1310,"word_count":46,"indexable":13},186,"80544","Privatization — whether it was well done, whether it wasn't, whether there were irregularities or not.",1459.54,1464.22,{"idx":1312,"utterance_id":1313,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1314,"start_s":1315,"end_s":1316,"word_count":39,"indexable":13},187,"80545","And that service being provided, not only to the population of São Paulo but to the Brazilian population.",1464.48,1469.78,{"idx":1318,"utterance_id":1319,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1320,"start_s":1321,"end_s":1322,"word_count":172,"indexable":13},188,"80546","I mentioned this just to give a more concrete example and to somewhat separate the senator's role from the federal deputy's role.",1469.86,1478.52,{"idx":1324,"utterance_id":1325,"speaker_name":8,"text":1326,"start_s":1327,"end_s":1328,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},189,"80547","Nominating ambassadors as well, right?",1480.64,1482.46,{"idx":1330,"utterance_id":1331,"speaker_name":8,"text":1332,"start_s":1333,"end_s":1334,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},190,"80548","It's very important.",1482.84,1485.24,{"idx":1336,"utterance_id":1337,"speaker_name":8,"text":1338,"start_s":1339,"end_s":1340,"word_count":233,"indexable":13},191,"80549","Minister, in the scenario of you being elected and also in the scenario of President Lula being re-elected... I ask whether there is an idea or possibility of you returning to be a minister or not.",1486.3,1501,{"idx":1342,"utterance_id":1343,"speaker_name":8,"text":1344,"start_s":1345,"end_s":1346,"word_count":178,"indexable":13},192,"80550","You will serve an eight-year term; that is already defined, already on paper at the notary — how is that?",1501.48,1510.72,{"idx":1348,"utterance_id":1349,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1350,"start_s":1351,"end_s":1352,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},193,"80551","The paperwork at the notary only after we win the election; no one sits in the chair before their time.",1512.04,1517.06,{"idx":1354,"utterance_id":1355,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1356,"start_s":1357,"end_s":1358,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},194,"80552","But, without a doubt, Evandro, your question is important.",1517.44,1519.78,{"idx":1360,"utterance_id":1361,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1362,"start_s":1363,"end_s":1364,"word_count":461,"topic_slug":1365,"topic_label":1366,"target_id":1367,"target_proposition":1368,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1369,"indexable":202},195,"80553","Again, and it's a good thing I started by saying this: this is the most important election of our lives, because while we have a project for the country, on the other side the extreme right wants to — not merely to make a majority within the Federal Senate, but to create a qualified three-fifths majority to be able to change the Constitution and strip away rights already",1520.98,1543.72,"direitos-civis","Civil rights","acde5119-0d70-4598-a4a2-a3d97e674dbf","protect freedom of expression and the press","criticizes the risk of a qualified majority that could 'tirar direitos'.",{"idx":1371,"utterance_id":1372,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1373,"start_s":1374,"end_s":1375,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":1365,"topic_label":1366,"target_id":1367,"target_proposition":1368,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":1376,"indexable":13},196,"80554","hard-won by Brazilian society.",1544.66,1548.38,"states that rights were 'a duras penas conquistados' and must be preserved.",{"idx":1378,"utterance_id":1379,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1380,"start_s":1381,"end_s":1382,"word_count":118,"topic_slug":1365,"topic_label":1366,"target_id":1367,"target_proposition":1368,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1383,"indexable":202},197,"80555","If the extreme right wins 49 of 81 senators, they will turn the Constitution upside down.",1548.78,1555.04,"warns that an opposing majority could 'virar a constituição do avesso'.",{"idx":1385,"utterance_id":1386,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1387,"start_s":1388,"end_s":1389,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":1365,"topic_label":1366,"target_id":1367,"target_proposition":1368,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":1390,"indexable":202},198,"80556","So everything we've advanced in terms of rights can be altered depending on how the composition turns out.",1555.42,1562.62,"warns that advances in rights can be altered depending on the composition of the Senate.",{"idx":1392,"utterance_id":1393,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1394,"start_s":1395,"end_s":1396,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},199,"80557","And with that I answer your question.",1562.7,1564.22,{"idx":1398,"utterance_id":1399,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1400,"start_s":1401,"end_s":1402,"word_count":204,"indexable":13},200,"80558","If that's the case, the most important seat today for whoever is elected, with the obvious exception of the presidency of the republic, isn't it the seat of minister?",1564.34,1573.62,{"idx":1404,"utterance_id":1405,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1406,"start_s":1407,"end_s":1408,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":1409,"topic_label":1410,"target_id":1411,"target_proposition":1412,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1413,"indexable":202},201,"80559","Minister of State, it's not the seat of state deputy or federal deputy, it's the seat of senator.",1573.82,1579.8,"mandatos-e-cargos-publicos","Mandates and Public Office","2f72b269-c4bd-4d12-b4dc-4e234cb6da56","refuse an invitation to assume a ministry while serving as senator","declares unequivocally that she will not assume a ministry in 2027 if elected.",{"idx":1415,"utterance_id":1416,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1417,"start_s":1418,"end_s":1419,"word_count":273,"indexable":13},202,"80560","So, in the event that I am elected, there is no possibility whatsoever, let it be recorded here, none — I could put it in a nicer way and sugarcoat it, but no, there is no possibility whatsoever that I would take on a ministry in 2027.",1580.14,1593.88,{"idx":1421,"utterance_id":1422,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1423,"start_s":1424,"end_s":1425,"word_count":39,"indexable":13},203,"80561","We have extremely important issues that will take a very long time to be resolved within the Federal Senate.",1594.86,1601.54,{"idx":1427,"utterance_id":1428,"speaker_name":8,"text":1429,"start_s":1430,"end_s":1431,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},204,"80562","Minister, and a candidate for the presidency in 2030?",1602.64,1606.16,{"idx":1433,"utterance_id":1434,"speaker_name":8,"text":1435,"start_s":1436,"end_s":1437,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},205,"80563","There are these questions here.",1607.1,1608.78,{"idx":1439,"utterance_id":1440,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1441,"start_s":1442,"end_s":1443,"word_count":409,"indexable":13},206,"80564","I want to have a lot of health to continue helping Brazil as someone who experienced the dictatorship, as someone who saw, 40 years ago, a population where almost half of Brazilians were poor or destitute, and today sees a middle class on the rise; today the country is different.",1611.82,1633.14,{"idx":1445,"utterance_id":1446,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1447,"start_s":1448,"end_s":1449,"word_count":1167,"topic_slug":1450,"topic_label":1451,"target_id":1452,"target_proposition":1453,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1454,"indexable":202},207,"80565","The country left the hunger map, has the lowest unemployment rate, even though we have a very serious problem with informality that we need to solve and provide security for those on platforms — typically platform workers are women on social networks — or even our Uberized workers, I don't know the exact term, people use different terms; we still have many bottlenecks regarding this. But I have lived through this story for almost 40 years to see Brazil grow and develop, though in slow steps; Brazil is different, but we still need to do a lot for this country. I just want to have the health to keep working with or without office; I am a political being by nature, because I say that a teacher is nothing other than a political being. I am very proud to be an educator, to have taught for 12 years of my life, and to have made education my mission for that time.",1633.6,1693.82,"reforma-trabalhista-e-justica-do-trabalho","Labor Reform and Labor Court","1199e660-3520-4d65-9cc9-12a46bbc2b22","regulate and protect workers on digital platforms","says 'temos que resolver e dar segurança para quem está na plataforma'.",{"idx":194,"utterance_id":1456,"speaker_name":8,"text":1457,"start_s":1458,"end_s":1459,"word_count":178,"indexable":13},"80566","Minister, you spoke about the powers of a senator of the Republic, and the impeachment of ministers of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) is also among those powers.",1694.74,1707.5,{"idx":1461,"utterance_id":1462,"speaker_name":8,"text":1463,"start_s":1464,"end_s":1465,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},209,"80567","There are some questions here about what you think of a reform of the judiciary and the impeachment of an STF minister.",1707.56,1716.88,{"idx":1467,"utterance_id":1468,"speaker_name":8,"text":1469,"start_s":1470,"end_s":1471,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},210,"80568","There are some about ministers, but one specifically about Alexandre de Moraes.",1718.6,1723.38,{"idx":1473,"utterance_id":1474,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1475,"start_s":1476,"end_s":1477,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},211,"80569","Of course, of course, I will answer, no problem.",1723.44,1725.32,{"idx":1479,"utterance_id":1480,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1481,"start_s":1482,"end_s":1483,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":1484,"topic_label":1485,"target_id":1486,"target_proposition":1487,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":1488,"indexable":202},212,"80570","The mother of all reforms will have to be political reform in Brazil.",1726.14,1730.32,"reforma-politica","Political Reform","e25a7b17-9100-4c3e-9418-7d7515b6d50f","promote political reform to modernize the political system","calls political reform 'a mãe de todas as reformas' and supports it.",{"idx":1490,"utterance_id":1491,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1492,"start_s":1493,"end_s":1494,"word_count":170,"topic_slug":1484,"topic_label":1485,"target_id":1486,"target_proposition":1487,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1495,"indexable":202},213,"80571","And when I speak of political reform, I mean reform in the three branches, because it's very easy to throw the ball at only one, without whitewashing the mistakes the judiciaries are committing.",1730.9,1741.58,"specifies that the reform must cover the three branches of government.",{"idx":1497,"utterance_id":1498,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1499,"start_s":1500,"end_s":1501,"word_count":82,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1504,"target_proposition":1505,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1506,"indexable":202},214,"80572","First, a judiciary must do self-criticism and show self-restraint.",1742.14,1745.7,"poder-judiciario","Judiciary","448bd8a1-a628-4544-8895-293e57aacfaa","limit the judiciary's intervention to what is provided in the Constitution and the law","states that 'um judiciário tem que fazer uma autocrítica e autocontenção'.",{"idx":1508,"utterance_id":1509,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1510,"start_s":1511,"end_s":1512,"word_count":82,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1513,"target_proposition":1514,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1515,"indexable":202},215,"80573","The code of ethics is important, but it is not sufficient.",1745.78,1748.92,"3077ce3b-b322-429c-b754-43b4430ab3a7","strengthen codes of ethics and disciplinary mechanisms in the Judiciary","says that 'o código de ética é importante, mas não é suficiente'.",{"idx":1517,"utterance_id":1518,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1519,"start_s":1520,"end_s":1521,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},216,"80574","And it will happen.",1749.56,1750.8,{"idx":1523,"utterance_id":1524,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1525,"start_s":1526,"end_s":1527,"word_count":55,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1528,"target_proposition":1529,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1530,"indexable":13},217,"80575","Compulsory retirement must end.",1751.16,1753.78,"62b3e6df-349d-41cb-ae26-93acaf890e0d","end compulsory retirement of judges used as a reward","explicitly advocates 'tem que acabar com a aposentadoria compulsória'.",{"idx":1532,"utterance_id":1533,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1534,"start_s":1535,"end_s":1536,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},218,"80576","When a judge commits a crime, he gets a reward, because he is retired while still receiving a salary.",1753.88,1759.26,{"idx":1538,"utterance_id":1539,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1540,"start_s":1541,"end_s":1542,"word_count":261,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1528,"target_proposition":1529,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1543,"indexable":202},219,"80577","So, the bad judges, who I know are a minority, a minority of a minority — I have great respect for the magistracy — but those judges will want to commit crimes in order to retire and receive a salary without working; that is not republican.",1759.58,1772.44,"argues that bad judges could benefit from compulsory retirement.",{"idx":1545,"utterance_id":1546,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1547,"start_s":1548,"end_s":1549,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},220,"80578","I am giving the example and will get to the figure of a minister of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",1772.98,1777.64,{"idx":1551,"utterance_id":1552,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1553,"start_s":1554,"end_s":1555,"word_count":96,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1556,"target_proposition":1557,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1558,"indexable":202},221,"80579","So, the judiciary needs to restrain itself, but that will not be sufficient.",1777.7,1781.46,"3c5d0162-1dc7-42b1-a932-0857bdb52d00","establish self-criticism and self-restraint mechanisms in the Judiciary","repeats the need for self-restraint in the Judiciary.",{"idx":1560,"utterance_id":1561,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1562,"start_s":1563,"end_s":1564,"word_count":295,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1565,"target_proposition":1566,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1567,"indexable":202},222,"80580","I myself have already voted — it's not that I will vote, I've already voted in the Federal Senate — on a bill that stalled; it passed, I think, in the Senate and stalled in the Chamber of Deputies, I don't remember, to establish a term of office for ministers of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",1781.74,1795.42,"ab8d098b-295c-429d-bb80-15f0fd0213c6","establish a term of up to 10 years for STF ministers","says they voted for a bill that sets a term length for ministers of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",{"idx":1569,"utterance_id":1570,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1571,"start_s":1572,"end_s":1573,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1565,"target_proposition":1566,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1574,"indexable":202},223,"80581","Perhaps 12 years is a time... it is sufficient for them to mature, to produce good reports, good votes, and with a minimum age requirement.",1795.74,1806.52,"proposes 12 years as an appropriate term length for ministers.",{"idx":1576,"utterance_id":1577,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1578,"start_s":1579,"end_s":1580,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},224,"80582","So, I have already poked that hornet's nest because no one is above the law.",1806.9,1810.96,{"idx":1582,"utterance_id":1583,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1584,"start_s":1585,"end_s":1586,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},225,"80583","And abuse of power is abuse of power.",1811.36,1812.92,{"idx":1588,"utterance_id":1589,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1590,"start_s":1591,"end_s":1592,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},226,"80584","I will generalize because, as a lawyer, I cannot analyze one case or another without having the case file.",1812.98,1819.1,{"idx":1594,"utterance_id":1595,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1596,"start_s":1597,"end_s":1598,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":1599,"topic_label":1600,"target_id":1601,"target_proposition":1602,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1603,"indexable":202},227,"80585","But I can speak about the head of the executive, whether federal or state — therefore from mayor to governor to the president of the republic — I speak in relation to a federal deputy, a senator, and I speak in relation to a judge or a minister of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",1819.54,1834.86,"governanca-e-corrupcao","Governance and Corruption","1d3b29b9-6a2f-4a32-9450-ceb7120d5ac9","ensure accountability of authorities for abuse of power","advocates that 'ninguém está acima da lei' and accountability for abuse.",{"idx":1605,"utterance_id":1606,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1607,"start_s":1608,"end_s":1609,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},228,"80586","No one is above the law.",1835.2,1836.82,{"idx":1611,"utterance_id":1612,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1613,"start_s":1614,"end_s":1615,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},229,"80587","Abuse of power is abuse of power.",1837.22,1839.18,{"idx":1617,"utterance_id":1618,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1619,"start_s":1620,"end_s":1621,"word_count":172,"topic_slug":1622,"topic_label":1623,"target_id":1624,"target_proposition":1625,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1626,"indexable":202},230,"80588","If there are serious indications and there is an impeachment process, whoever it is against, it needs to be put on the table and will be discussed.",1839.54,1847.96,"etica-e-afastamento-de-membro","Ethics and Member Removal","e879da2f-c84f-45ae-81cc-b42bd2a49a8a","file an impeachment request against Minister Alexandre de Moraes","says that, if there are serious indications, impeachment needs to be discussed.",{"idx":1628,"utterance_id":1629,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1630,"start_s":1631,"end_s":1632,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},231,"80589","The only exception.",1848.36,1849.5,{"idx":1634,"utterance_id":1635,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1636,"start_s":1637,"end_s":1638,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},232,"80590","This needs to be clear, because this is not in the Constitution and is prohibited by the Constitution.",1850.38,1853.74,{"idx":1640,"utterance_id":1641,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1642,"start_s":1643,"end_s":1644,"word_count":165,"topic_slug":1645,"topic_label":1646,"target_id":1647,"target_proposition":1648,"stance":1649,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1650,"indexable":202},233,"80591","I cannot seek to condemn anyone, neither a judge nor a Supreme minister, for a judicial decision that he issued within the case files.",1854.14,1860.02,"investigacao-e-responsabilizacao-judicial","Investigation and Judicial Accountability","5959294f-f900-447b-830e-87ca3bb6d207","promote impeachment of magistrates of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal)","contra","refuses to condemn magistrates for decisions in the judicial process ('crime de interpretação').",{"idx":1652,"utterance_id":1653,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1654,"start_s":1655,"end_s":1656,"word_count":112,"topic_slug":1645,"topic_label":1646,"target_id":1647,"target_proposition":1648,"stance":1649,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1657,"indexable":202},234,"80592","Because that would be a crime of interpretation and there is no crime of interpretation in Brazil.",1860.42,1863.94,"states that there is no 'crime de interpretação' and judicial decisions should not be punished.",{"idx":1659,"utterance_id":1660,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1661,"start_s":1662,"end_s":1663,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},235,"80593","I am not a judge, so I cannot think that my will or my opinion is worth more than the opinion of the judge who gave, say, 10 years.",1864.46,1872.56,{"idx":1665,"utterance_id":1666,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1667,"start_s":1668,"end_s":1669,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},236,"80594","And I will give a very simple example.",1872.88,1874.16,{"idx":1671,"utterance_id":1672,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1673,"start_s":1674,"end_s":1675,"word_count":170,"topic_slug":1676,"topic_label":1677,"target_id":1678,"target_proposition":1679,"stance":488,"stance_confidence":489,"rationale":1680,"indexable":13},237,"80595","How many times am I outraged because a minister or an appellate judge overturned a decision that removed from prison a man who committed femicide or rape, or reduced that citizen's sentence.",1874.86,1891.4,"justica-criminal","Criminal Justice","1ceb6f95-b82d-40f4-bc94-4d3d06b768d2","draft new criminal legislation with harsher penalties","is outraged by sentence reductions, but acknowledges having no power to change them.",{"idx":1682,"utterance_id":1683,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1684,"start_s":1685,"end_s":1686,"word_count":148,"indexable":13},238,"80596","I am outraged by that, but I do not have the power, because I am not a magistrate, to change that sentence.",1891.8,1897.24,{"idx":1688,"utterance_id":1689,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1690,"start_s":1691,"end_s":1692,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":1645,"topic_label":1646,"target_id":1647,"target_proposition":1648,"stance":1649,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":1693,"indexable":202},239,"80597","So I cannot open an impeachment process against an appellate judge or a minister because he changed",1897.28,1903.08,"repeats that impeachment cannot be opened over a change of sentence.",{"idx":1695,"utterance_id":1696,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1697,"start_s":1698,"end_s":1699,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},240,"80598","the sentence from 10 years to 5 years to 3 years, when I would like it to be 30.",1904,1908.9,{"idx":1701,"utterance_id":1702,"speaker_name":8,"text":1703,"start_s":1704,"end_s":1705,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},241,"80599","This proposal of a 12-year term for a minister of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) — do you continue to defend it and would you present a bill, or reintroduce a bill in that sense, Minister?",1910.02,1922.9,{"idx":1707,"utterance_id":1708,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1709,"start_s":1710,"end_s":1711,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1712,"target_proposition":1713,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1714,"indexable":202},242,"80600","I wanted to buy time, you don't even need to present the bill, just make it move and send it to the Chamber of Deputies.",1923.86,1928.18,"c355d500-30c2-49bc-9ad4-585742302582","establish limited terms for STF ministers (for example 10-12 years)","advocates making the bill 'correr' and sending it to the Chamber of Deputies to establish terms.",{"idx":1716,"utterance_id":1717,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1718,"start_s":1719,"end_s":1720,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},243,"80601","It has already been approved within the Senate.",1928.98,1931.86,{"idx":264,"utterance_id":1722,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1723,"start_s":1724,"end_s":1725,"word_count":148,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1726,"target_proposition":1727,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1728,"indexable":202},"80602","Or it can go straight, since it's another legislature, it goes directly to the plenary, it doesn't need to go through the committees.",1932.26,1936.78,"492fb541-761f-42f2-b0d4-b8d9d3d7f193","submit a bill to limit terms of STF ministers directly to the plenary","suggests direct processing to the plenary without going through committees.",{"idx":1730,"utterance_id":1731,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1732,"start_s":1733,"end_s":1734,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},245,"80603","It's just that people may want to discuss it.",1937.14,1939.36,{"idx":1736,"utterance_id":1737,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1738,"start_s":1739,"end_s":1740,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},246,"80604","Is it 10 years, 15 or 10?",1939.54,1940.4,{"idx":1742,"utterance_id":1743,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1744,"start_s":1745,"end_s":1746,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},247,"80605","Sorry, it's 12 years, 15 or 10.",1940.44,1943.54,{"idx":1748,"utterance_id":1749,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1750,"start_s":1751,"end_s":1752,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},248,"80606","But I believe it's a path, the path of balance, it's the path... that we will have to debate, that we will have to discuss.",1944.1,1956.54,{"idx":1754,"utterance_id":1755,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1756,"start_s":1757,"end_s":1758,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":1502,"topic_label":1503,"target_id":1565,"target_proposition":1566,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":1759,"indexable":202},249,"80607","I approve of such a bill, I would vote for the bill — I have already voted in the past and would vote again.",1958.66,1962.74,"declares that he approves the bill and would vote in favor again.",{"idx":1761,"utterance_id":1762,"speaker_name":8,"text":1763,"start_s":1764,"end_s":1765,"word_count":129,"indexable":13},250,"80608","Flávio says, Tebet has a joy when she talks about politics, and gives the impression of knowing Brazil very well.",1963.56,1970.6,{"idx":1767,"utterance_id":1768,"speaker_name":8,"text":1769,"start_s":1770,"end_s":1771,"word_count":165,"indexable":13},251,"80609","And Eurico Frade asks, how do you intend to act regarding public security, a critical issue for São Paulo voters?",1971.1,1979.98,{"idx":1773,"utterance_id":1774,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1775,"start_s":1776,"end_s":1777,"word_count":184,"indexable":13},252,"80610","Eurico, I have already been deputy governor, I was born in a border state, I know this reality of public security well and I know what is going wrong.",1981.12,1988.82,{"idx":1779,"utterance_id":1780,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1781,"start_s":1782,"end_s":1783,"word_count":285,"indexable":13},253,"80611","First, today we have criminal organizations spreading terror, not only in the capital, in São Paulo, but in the smaller cities of Brazil and of São Paulo, leaving a trail of violence, a trail of violence that reaches the point of kidnapping.",1989.26,2007.42,{"idx":1785,"utterance_id":1786,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1787,"start_s":1788,"end_s":1789,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},254,"80612","Obviously you will understand the terms — our girls in the peripheries.",2008.7,2012.8,{"idx":1791,"utterance_id":1792,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1793,"start_s":1794,"end_s":1795,"word_count":48,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1796,"target_proposition":1797,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":247,"rationale":1798,"indexable":13},255,"80613","Having said that, political will is necessary.",2013.36,2016.26,"2128ccb3-8bff-4aea-8097-ac8315f9d598","ensure political will to confront organized crime","says 'é preciso vontade política' to fight criminal organizations.",{"idx":1800,"utterance_id":1801,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1802,"start_s":1803,"end_s":1804,"word_count":53,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1203,"target_proposition":1204,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1805,"indexable":202},256,"80614","A broad national coordination is needed, whoever the president of the republic may be; what cannot happen is a right-wing governor or right-wing governors saying, 'ah, I don't want to, because I don't want to lose protagonism.'",2016.86,2026.52,"supports 'ampla coordenação nacional' to confront transnational crime.",{"idx":1807,"utterance_id":1808,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1809,"start_s":1810,"end_s":1811,"word_count":34,"indexable":13},257,"80615","No one will lose their leading role.",2026.88,2028.5,{"idx":1813,"utterance_id":1814,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1815,"start_s":1816,"end_s":1817,"word_count":204,"indexable":13},258,"80616","Public security is the competence of the state government, but when it becomes a transnational crime that competence also moves to the national sphere.",2028.86,2038.2,{"idx":1819,"utterance_id":1820,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1821,"start_s":1822,"end_s":1823,"word_count":467,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1826,"indexable":202},259,"80617","And today you do not fight organized crime — which is what will generate at the point the violence of homicide, latrocide, robbery, theft, all crimes against life and property — without a national force, when necessary, in specific cases at the border, therefore involving the Army, the Navy, the Air Force in certain activities and operations, the Federal Police and COAF, and the Federal Revenue Service.",2038.56,2064.98,"ab5895b5-71ee-4c50-b1b1-4014eb3a7915","integrate security forces across the Union, states, and institutions","proposes using the Army, PF and Receita in specific operations against organized crime.",{"idx":1828,"utterance_id":1829,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1830,"start_s":1831,"end_s":1832,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},260,"80618","Why do I want to emphasize the Federal Revenue Service?",2065.06,2067.74,{"idx":1834,"utterance_id":1835,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1836,"start_s":1837,"end_s":1838,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},261,"80619","Because organized crime has reached the top of Brazil's financial system.",2068.34,2074.38,{"idx":1840,"utterance_id":1841,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1842,"start_s":1843,"end_s":1844,"word_count":433,"indexable":13},262,"80620","It arrived without Faria Lima noticing, without traditional banks noticing; it is using lawful activities. We're no longer talking only about drugs or arms trafficking; we're not only talking about adulterated alcohol coming in, or from Paraguay, or from another country arriving here through their hands — we're talking about organized crime entering right there at the gas station.",2074.94,2097.24,{"idx":1846,"utterance_id":1847,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1848,"start_s":1849,"end_s":1850,"word_count":190,"indexable":13},263,"80621","to launder money, and other large activities of corporate groups — even if those groups notice — to launder criminal proceeds, involving, including, sectors of the political class.",2097.92,2110.76,{"idx":1852,"utterance_id":1853,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1854,"start_s":1855,"end_s":1856,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},264,"80622","So, they have thus disseminated into economic sectors.",2111.12,2115.58,{"idx":1858,"utterance_id":1859,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1860,"start_s":1861,"end_s":1862,"word_count":146,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1824,"target_proposition":1825,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1863,"indexable":202},265,"80623","Therefore, national coordination is needed, political will from everyone, integration of the national police with the Federal Police, and with the civil and military police, and I won't go too far to avoid lengthening this, but I would still point to something I regret that happened here in São Paulo.",2115.84,2137.14,"supports integration between police forces to combat crime.",{"idx":1865,"utterance_id":1866,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1867,"start_s":1868,"end_s":1869,"word_count":46,"indexable":13},266,"80624","Look at criminal organizations with very serious suspicions reaching the high command of the Military Police of the state of São Paulo.",2137.74,2147.16,{"idx":1871,"utterance_id":1872,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1873,"start_s":1874,"end_s":1875,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},267,"80625","Colonels suspected of involvement in facilitating this crime.",2147.52,2152.24,{"idx":1877,"utterance_id":1878,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1879,"start_s":1880,"end_s":1881,"word_count":348,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1882,"target_proposition":1883,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":1884,"indexable":202},268,"80626","When we are saying that until then we had — and we must return to having — one of the forces with the greatest credibility in the country, since Covas, I want to take the opportunity to greet here the former governors — Covas, since Geraldo Alckmin, four-time governor of São Paulo, who organized the Military Police.",2152.3,2173.06,"d3b3b2dd-c9a1-4f75-8f19-a79aad8d308d","restore and organize the Military Police to recover credibility","advocates returning to the organization that gave credibility to the PM in previous administrations.",{"idx":1886,"utterance_id":1887,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1888,"start_s":1889,"end_s":1890,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1891,"target_proposition":1892,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1893,"indexable":202},269,"80627","And I will finish with the hollowing out of the Civil Police.",2173.5,2176.74,"39c706c5-2183-4c29-8416-1ceab6090203","restructure and invest in the Civil Police","denounces 'sucateamento' of the Civil Police and calls for action.",{"idx":1895,"utterance_id":1896,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1897,"start_s":1898,"end_s":1899,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},270,"80628","The investigative police is fundamental.",2177.5,2179.84,{"idx":1901,"utterance_id":1902,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1903,"start_s":1904,"end_s":1905,"word_count":112,"indexable":13},271,"80629","It is the one that opens inquiries, that investigates, that provides resolution to this problem.",2180.26,2184.98,{"idx":1907,"utterance_id":1908,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1909,"start_s":1910,"end_s":1911,"word_count":261,"indexable":13},272,"80630","In São Paulo, seven or eight out of ten inquiries are not closed, are not investigated, and cannot conclude who is the instigator, who is the criminal, who we have to put in jail.",2185.4,2197.54,{"idx":1913,"utterance_id":1914,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1915,"start_s":1916,"end_s":1917,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1918,"target_proposition":1919,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":339,"rationale":1920,"indexable":202},273,"80631","So, given this whole scenario, it's necessary to value the public security professional, especially the civil police; there is a shortfall.",2197.9,2206.46,"bafd5d57-1198-49ab-bdaf-842ff715d3d9","value and structure the Civil Police with better salaries and conditions","asks to 'valorizar o profissional da segurança pública', citing wage shortfalls.",{"idx":1922,"utterance_id":1923,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1924,"start_s":1925,"end_s":1926,"word_count":123,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1918,"target_proposition":1919,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1927,"indexable":202},274,"80632","Of more than 14 men and women of the Civil Police in São Paulo, we have one of the worst salaries when considered against the GDP of the State of São Paulo, and it is necessary to properly equip the police so that they can do their homework and we can end this narrative.",2206.5,2223.96,"denounces low salaries and asks to 'instrumentalizar' the civil police.",{"idx":1929,"utterance_id":1930,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1931,"start_s":1932,"end_s":1933,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},275,"80633","Ah, but the police arrest... and the courts release.",2224.36,2227.16,{"idx":1935,"utterance_id":1936,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1937,"start_s":1938,"end_s":1939,"word_count":46,"indexable":13},276,"80634","If the inquiry is poorly done, if it has gaps, if there is no due process, what will happen?",2227.7,2233.58,{"idx":1941,"utterance_id":1942,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1943,"start_s":1944,"end_s":1945,"word_count":34,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1918,"target_proposition":1919,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1946,"indexable":13},277,"80635","The courts will release.",2234.4,2235.52,"says it is necessary to 'dar estrutura e suporte' for the civil police.",{"idx":1948,"utterance_id":1949,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1950,"start_s":1951,"end_s":1952,"word_count":154,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1953,"target_proposition":1954,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":1955,"indexable":202},278,"80636","So it is necessary to attack the problem at its root, by providing structure and support so the civil police can do their work.",2235.8,2241.1,"0a17742f-c091-4c01-a19b-98402419a921","ensure the Military Police acts with impartiality and without violence","explicitly argues that the PM should be 'isenta, imparcial, sem violência'.",{"idx":1957,"utterance_id":1958,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1959,"start_s":1960,"end_s":1961,"word_count":62,"topic_slug":484,"topic_label":485,"target_id":1962,"target_proposition":1963,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":1964,"indexable":202},279,"80637","The military police must be impartial, unbiased, and free of violence.",2241.44,2245.38,"a603256e-7e3f-4663-b249-81f2b6affcad","combat police violence and racial discrimination in policing","says 'não pode ser violento com pobre, com negro', calling for change.",{"idx":1966,"utterance_id":1967,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1968,"start_s":1969,"end_s":1970,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},280,"80638","They cannot be violent toward the poor or toward Black people.",2245.92,2248.12,{"idx":1972,"utterance_id":1973,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1974,"start_s":1975,"end_s":1976,"word_count":62,"indexable":13},281,"80639","Nor can they make life easier for the rich and the white.",2248.98,2251.18,{"idx":1978,"utterance_id":1979,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1980,"start_s":1981,"end_s":1982,"word_count":103,"indexable":13},282,"80640","So, this is not a leftist discourse, this is not something new.",2251.5,2255.54,{"idx":1984,"utterance_id":1985,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1986,"start_s":1987,"end_s":1988,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},283,"80641","I, who am a centrist, can insist on rationality.",2256,2260.62,{"idx":1990,"utterance_id":1991,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1992,"start_s":1993,"end_s":1994,"word_count":204,"indexable":13},284,"80642","This discourse, without us politicizing it, is a leftist discourse; now, Simone is making a right-wing discourse — that's not it, it's the reality of the facts.",2260.7,2267.34,{"idx":1996,"utterance_id":1997,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":1998,"start_s":1999,"end_s":2000,"word_count":330,"indexable":13},285,"80643","Public security — you are right to ask me — today it ranks above concern for public health and education for the voter, especially for São Paulo voters, because São Paulo society is feeling this insecurity firsthand.",2267.6,2285.56,{"idx":2002,"utterance_id":2003,"speaker_name":8,"text":2004,"start_s":2005,"end_s":2006,"word_count":165,"indexable":13},286,"80644","Minister, we will have to let you go, but before that I have a question here from Audi de Mauá, here in São Paulo.",2286.58,2294.6,{"idx":2008,"utterance_id":2009,"speaker_name":8,"text":2010,"start_s":2011,"end_s":2012,"word_count":216,"indexable":13},287,"80645","Good morning, please ask the minister: if elected as senator for São Paulo, what are the main problems she sees and will fight to help São Paulo?",2295.22,2307.26,{"idx":2014,"utterance_id":2015,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2016,"start_s":2017,"end_s":2018,"word_count":295,"topic_slug":335,"topic_label":336,"target_id":2019,"target_proposition":2020,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":109,"rationale":2021,"indexable":202},288,"80646","Well, briefly, besides public security and health, which are two issues that need to be solved — I've already spoken about security — regarding health, since you are from Mauá, it is important to speak about the importance of regionalizing health; we need to discuss",2309.14,2323.22,"a8ba1ae5-b5d4-4d4c-b0ed-f4599b1136dc","strengthen health regionalization and strategic investment","proposes reallocating the federal budget and increasing amounts paid by the SUS.",{"idx":2023,"utterance_id":2024,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2025,"start_s":2026,"end_s":2027,"word_count":691,"indexable":13},289,"80647","and reallocate the federal budget to increase the SUS fee schedule; if I don't increase the amounts paid to health professionals, to philanthropic hospitals, to public hospitals, they remain under a ceiling of consultations and surgeries, and we need to clear the backlog of tests, surgeries and appointments, especially high-complexity ones such as oncology consultations and surgeries. I am indeed talking about this disease that causes me great pain — I lost my father to cancer — which is the issue of oncology.",2323.62,2356.82,{"idx":2029,"utterance_id":2030,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2031,"start_s":2032,"end_s":2033,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},290,"80648","So, security and health, without a doubt.",2357.2,2359.88,{"idx":2035,"utterance_id":2036,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2037,"start_s":2038,"end_s":2039,"word_count":261,"topic_slug":1181,"topic_label":1182,"target_id":2040,"target_proposition":2041,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":2042,"indexable":202},291,"80649","But I would like to reinforce, as someone who is a municipalist, I want and understand that it is necessary to decentralize policy, decentralize the budget, decentralize resources, so that they do not only serve the municipality of São Paulo.",2360.42,2377.76,"89747a54-f457-4ee9-8607-dc0b82b0e3d0","decentralize the federal budget and resources to municipalities","supports 'descentralizar a política, o orçamento, o recurso' to reach municipalities.",{"idx":2044,"utterance_id":2045,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2046,"start_s":2047,"end_s":2048,"word_count":415,"topic_slug":1181,"topic_label":1182,"target_id":2049,"target_proposition":2041,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":292,"rationale":2050,"indexable":202},292,"80650","so that they reach Mauá, but also reach Castilho, which borders the city where I was born, Três Lagoas, so that they can extend not only to metropolitan regions but also to more distant administrative regions, whether the Northwest of São Paulo, the Coast, the Baixada Santista, or the Alto Tietê — it doesn't matter.",2377.96,2396.54,"58035568-697e-4376-971f-55f1a50626a2","insists that funds should also reach remote administrative regions.",{"idx":2052,"utterance_id":2053,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2054,"start_s":2055,"end_s":2056,"word_count":39,"indexable":13},293,"80651","In short, there are many problems, and São Paulo is many; São Paulo is not just one.",2396.86,2401.46,{"idx":2058,"utterance_id":2059,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2060,"start_s":2061,"end_s":2062,"word_count":279,"indexable":13},294,"80652","As I have already said in relation to Minas Gerais, Guimarães Rosa — São Paulo is many too — and I have a reality in the capital and the metropolitan region that is different from the reality of the interior, and this must be taken into account.",2402.12,2414.04,{"idx":2064,"utterance_id":2065,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2066,"start_s":2067,"end_s":2068,"word_count":55,"indexable":13},295,"80653","What I... I am not lazy.",2414.42,2416.42,{"idx":2070,"utterance_id":2071,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2072,"start_s":2073,"end_s":2074,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},296,"80654","What I have is the courage to fight for what I believe in.",2416.72,2419.48,{"idx":2076,"utterance_id":2077,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2078,"start_s":2079,"end_s":2080,"word_count":172,"indexable":13},297,"80655","What I have is, despite having only two hands and a single head, a brain that works 24 hours a day.",2419.78,2426.74,{"idx":2082,"utterance_id":2083,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2084,"start_s":2085,"end_s":2086,"word_count":178,"indexable":13},298,"80656","I thank God very much for having been Minister of Planning and for having such a broad view of the problems of Brazil and of São Paulo.",2426.78,2433.92,{"idx":2088,"utterance_id":2089,"speaker_name":8,"text":2090,"start_s":2091,"end_s":2092,"word_count":60,"indexable":13},299,"80657","Minister, before closing, I would like to ask you a question.",2435.98,2439.6,{"idx":2094,"utterance_id":2095,"speaker_name":8,"text":2096,"start_s":2097,"end_s":2098,"word_count":154,"indexable":13},300,"80658","You are quite right to say that the distinction... of the Senate's powers in relation to the Chamber or other branches.",2439.64,2448.2,{"idx":2100,"utterance_id":2101,"speaker_name":8,"text":2102,"start_s":2103,"end_s":2104,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},301,"80659","Depending on the president of the Senate, in the case of Alcolumbre today, the power is very great.",2449.78,2456.44,{"idx":2106,"utterance_id":2107,"speaker_name":8,"text":2108,"start_s":2109,"end_s":2110,"word_count":154,"indexable":13},302,"80660","And depending on his relationship with the Executive, he can take actions that cause harm to the government, let's put it that way.",2457.06,2467.68,{"idx":2112,"utterance_id":2113,"speaker_name":8,"text":2114,"start_s":2115,"end_s":2116,"word_count":267,"indexable":13},303,"80661","I am talking about the specific case of the nomination of Jorge Messias to the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal), where we saw a tug-of-war between the president of the Senate and President Lula, and Minister Messias's name ended up being rejected.",2467.94,2480.02,{"idx":2118,"utterance_id":2119,"speaker_name":8,"text":2120,"start_s":2121,"end_s":2122,"word_count":93,"indexable":13},304,"80662","I ask whether you defend re-submitting his name as a Justice of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal).",2480.42,2486.32,{"idx":2124,"utterance_id":2125,"speaker_name":8,"text":2126,"start_s":2127,"end_s":2128,"word_count":210,"indexable":13},305,"80663","It is likely that, depending on the political scenario that comes, he could even be re-submitted and approved in the post-election period, but it may be that it will be left until you are elected.",2486.56,2496.62,{"idx":2130,"utterance_id":2131,"speaker_name":8,"text":2132,"start_s":2133,"end_s":2134,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},306,"80664","that decision next year.",2497.3,2498.96,{"idx":2136,"utterance_id":2137,"speaker_name":8,"text":2138,"start_s":2139,"end_s":2140,"word_count":96,"indexable":13},307,"80665","Do you understand that the government should re-submit his name, Minister?",2499.42,2504.02,{"idx":2142,"utterance_id":2143,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2144,"start_s":2145,"end_s":2146,"word_count":190,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2149,"target_proposition":2150,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":1303,"rationale":2151,"indexable":202},308,"80666","Well, Evandro, this is a very personal decision, exclusive to the President of the Republic, but if he re-submits him, I think he will do so fairly for one reason.",2505.02,2513.82,"nomeacoes-e-indicacoes","Appointments and nominations","a81b6ec8-117b-4983-b2b5-1961b2d355ec","resubmit STF nominations for a new hearing when necessary","says it is the president's personal decision, but accepts that he resubmits it and that the Senate decide.",{"idx":2153,"utterance_id":2154,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2155,"start_s":2156,"end_s":2157,"word_count":129,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2158,"target_proposition":2159,"stance":72,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":2160,"indexable":202},309,"80667","It is the role of the Senate to hold confirmation hearings and to approve or not a nominee of a President of the Republic according to his or her competence.",2514.7,2521.92,"d5c6b3a9-8f1d-45ea-b73f-10f2c746a26c","submit STF nominees to hearings and approval based on competence","says it is the Senate's role to hold hearings and assess nominees' competence.",{"idx":2162,"utterance_id":2163,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2164,"start_s":2165,"end_s":2166,"word_count":204,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2167,"target_proposition":2168,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":2169,"indexable":202},310,"80668","What I saw in the process—and I, who have already chaired confirmation hearings for three or four ministers, I don't remember whether it was three or four ministers of the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal) —",2522.8,2530.82,"cd8050fd-d4d6-4dc6-a4c6-4488f60833d6","allow confirmation hearings for judicial nominations to last as long as necessary","states that, in this case, there was no adequate scrutiny and stresses that point.",{"idx":2171,"utterance_id":2172,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2173,"start_s":2174,"end_s":2175,"word_count":267,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2176,"target_proposition":2177,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":1086,"rationale":2178,"indexable":202},311,"80669","and I have always insisted on that: I understood there that he was not scrutinized, judged, and was not rejected because of his ability or lack thereof; on the contrary, Messias has more than enough ability, I worked with him.",2532.18,2548.08,"bf445dcb-68e4-4599-bfba-094bb7aea30b","approve a nomination to the Supreme Federal Tribunal","argues that Messias 'tem capacidade de sobra' and can be approved if well evaluated.",{"idx":2180,"utterance_id":2181,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2182,"start_s":2183,"end_s":2184,"word_count":279,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2185,"target_proposition":2186,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":2187,"indexable":202},312,"80670","So, I believe he should, yes, if that is the case, be re-heard, and my decision to vote for or against will depend on the result of the confirmation hearing itself, on how well he performs or not.",2548.76,2561.32,"c3084d99-a49b-4c3e-9059-916db14c8b7e","rehear STF nominee before voting","says 'deva ser sabatinado de novo' and conditions his vote on performance in the hearing.",{"idx":2189,"utterance_id":2190,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2191,"start_s":2192,"end_s":2193,"word_count":795,"topic_slug":2194,"topic_label":2195,"target_id":2196,"target_proposition":2197,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":200,"rationale":2198,"indexable":202},313,"80671","Now, I think the importance of diversity is laudable, and here I'd like to speak about having... women and men on the STF (Supreme Federal Tribunal). I understand there should be alternation: one time you nominate a woman, another time you nominate a man. So if you nominate a man next time, nominate a woman the next. And I think it's important, of course, provided they have the competence— not every woman has the competence, not every man has the competence — but the racial question should also be raised, and I see no difficulty in raising the religious question. I don't see any problem with having evangelicals, or Catholics, or atheists within the... Diversity is good for democracy.",2561.86,2603.46,"poder-judiciario-e-separacao-de-poderes","Judiciary & Separation of Powers","fb10c673-1346-4cb2-aede-65ebd6746e27","promote gender, racial, and religious diversity in STF nominations","advocates gender alternation and racial inclusion in nominations to the STF.",{"idx":2200,"utterance_id":2201,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2202,"start_s":2203,"end_s":2204,"word_count":118,"indexable":13},314,"80672","And in this specific case of Messias, I saw that there was a conjunction of factors.",2603.86,2610.06,{"idx":2206,"utterance_id":2207,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2208,"start_s":2209,"end_s":2210,"word_count":136,"topic_slug":2211,"topic_label":2212,"target_id":2213,"target_proposition":2214,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":627,"rationale":2215,"indexable":202},315,"80673","The Senate did everything except do its job as senator, as the Federal Senate, of judging impartially.",2610.88,2618.2,"atuacao-do-senado","Senate Role","161bcf30-54e1-4cca-89b1-ee034e807fc9","maintain parliamentary independence in votes","criticizes that the Senate 'fez tudo, menos julgar com imparcialidade' in the mentioned case.",{"idx":2217,"utterance_id":2218,"speaker_name":17,"speaker_slug":18,"text":2219,"start_s":2220,"end_s":2221,"word_count":53,"topic_slug":2147,"topic_label":2148,"target_id":2222,"target_proposition":2223,"stance":108,"stance_confidence":2224,"rationale":2225,"indexable":202},316,"80674","There was an electoral process involved, there was a message sent to the President of the Republic, and the one who paid the price was the nominee, who is a serious person and someone who... who deserves all my respect.",2618.3,2628.48,"c5547f58-7159-4b92-9de2-f6b4fafede47","preserve independence in appointments within the justice and security system",0.78,"defends the nominee and criticizes that he 'pagou o preço' for an electoral process.",{"idx":2227,"utterance_id":2228,"speaker_name":8,"text":2229,"start_s":2230,"end_s":2231,"word_count":48,"indexable":13},317,"80675","Minister, thank you very much for this conversation.",2629.96,2632.8,{"idx":2233,"utterance_id":2234,"speaker_name":8,"text":2235,"start_s":2236,"end_s":2237,"word_count":204,"indexable":13},318,"80676","There are still many questions for you here, people saying that you are... Anyway, there are critics, there are praises, there are voters, there are many points, but you did very well.",2633.08,2647.52,{"idx":2239,"utterance_id":2240,"speaker_name":8,"text":2241,"start_s":2242,"end_s":2243,"word_count":12,"indexable":13},319,"80677","Thank you very much, Minister.",2647.58,2648.7,{"idx":2245,"utterance_id":2246,"speaker_name":8,"text":2247,"start_s":2248,"end_s":2249,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},320,"80678","Thank you to you, Amara, once again for the invitation.",2649.38,2651.92,{"idx":2251,"utterance_id":2252,"speaker_name":8,"text":2253,"start_s":2254,"end_s":2255,"word_count":76,"indexable":13},321,"80679","Evandro, a pleasure to see you again as well, and until next time.",2651.98,2654.5,{"idx":2257,"utterance_id":2258,"speaker_name":8,"text":2259,"start_s":2260,"end_s":2261,"word_count":41,"indexable":13},322,"80680","Have a good week, 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